| ah pek | 1. Questions on Book of Genesis! | 2007-05-16 22:42:42
Anyone can explain the following passages:
Adam and Eve have 2 offsprings. Cain and Abel. Cain then killed Abel.
So in the world, only got Adam, Eve and Cain right?
But in...
chapter 4 verse 14
13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."
and God replied
15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [e] ; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, [f] east of Eden.
So who else apart from them 3 would kill Cain? Is there anyone else?
And
verse 17
17 Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.
Where did the wife came from? No other humans rite on earth tat time? | | ah pek | 2. RE: Questions on Book of Genesis! | 2007-05-23 09:00:38
Error in the Bible perhaps? | | jack | 3. RE: Questions on Book of Genesis! | 2007-05-23 11:19:38
Our evangelical tradition has taught us to look at the bible in a certain way which in my opinion does not always do justice to its literary forms.
We began to read passages such as Genesis in an almost straight jacket, propositional manner. It is as if reading the verses in point forms (not least influenced by king james version's layout of the passages - one verse one line), not unlike reading medieaval philosophy books (e.g Spinoza).
But if we were to let stories be stories, narratives such as the Genesis will turn out to us to be literature where background information must be constructed, whether from the small hints in between the sentences or from the readers' own imagination, guarded by the structure and development of the plot.
I don't hope i answer your question perse, but probably just to point to and hint at my own stance of the bible which i hope to help you to imagine what my answers would be to those questions.
Anyway, of all the questions and problems regarding genesis, i would imagine yours would be the least problematic. But thanks for the "teasing"...the Church sometimes hav to be reminded that questions do occur in and about the bible.
| | ah pek | 4. RE: Questions on Book of Genesis! | 2007-05-24 01:40:33
I get your point, but just my thought on this, if the Bible is God inspire, then it should be as close to as perfect to avoid the readers having any doubt. | | jack | 5. RE: Questions on Book of Genesis! | 2007-05-24 22:54:10
we must also remember that Creation, nature & humanity, is also god's personal hand work. & if the scripture is regarded in the popular sense of inerrancy & infallibity because it is "god-breathel", then Adam who was god-breathed is exempted frm any weaknesses? & the Church, doubly "god-breathed",by god's livirg essence & by his Holy Spirit, is inerrant & infallible?
Maybe we should start a new thread on this...but anyway, I think for your comment, even the very conservative Westminster Confession clearly state tnat not all parts of the scripture is equally clear & obvious when talcen on its own. | | martianunlimited | 6. RE: Questions on Book of Genesis! | 2007-05-25 20:22:47
actually... that does very little to explain why it is not immune from wrongful intepretation.
My theory requires a preconcieved acceptance that all man are sinners and imperfect. An imperfect man cannot comprehend everything, and is not meant to comprehend everything. An imperfect man can also pervert any statement to their own cause. (look at history and our leaders for an example of this). Just try making a simple statement, like John is a boy; and we can come up with, John is a child; John is male; John is not a girl; John like girls and football (based from cultural experiences); John will grow up to be unfaithful and have an affair... can someone even make a statement that cannot be twisted by man? | |
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